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Aiming_bullets
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2022-07-16 21:45:28

In order to create game in Unreal engine, you need better hardware, which will cost more than the studio version of Coppercube. while coppercube can run on older hardware easily. +++++ money saved....

You don't want to use studio edition, nobody is forcing you... just use the free version. I don't know why it is becoming a topic for debate.

@just_in_case Is not saying that you are obliged to use studio version. With what I can read in the post he only advised and recommended people who know C++, to get the studio edition and improve the engine.

if you don't want to improve the engine it is okay, but don't argue. he clearly showed that new API's and features can be added to Coppercube with C++.
if you don't want to add something new then it is fine.
don't purchase it.

with bigger engines you need to buy better hardware, that will cost you more. Hobbyist like me with an older hardware like to work with CC, and I support and appreciate the work done by people who tries and wants to improve the engine. If @niko is not doing it then let it be someone else.

I think if you update the C++ code then it will automatically update the no code thing as well, it will help in the development of behavior and actions too. So eventually it is going to update the no code engine too.

the API that @just_in_case showcased in his video of stting mouse position. I think can easily be converted into an action in which you can provide an X location and Y location for the mouse. So with the API upgrade through the C++ code will also update the No-Code actions and behaviors.

I appreciate all of your efforts @just_in_case, specially the work done by you in the shaders is really amazing.
Don't let these debates demotivates you. keep doing whatever you are doing.

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kassonnade
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2022-07-17 02:03:19

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Aiming_bullets wrote:

if you don't want to improve the engine it is okay, but don't argue. .


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" ... don't argue... " ?

Don't worry, sir. With this attitude, I will not even stick around very long. Good luck trying to motivate people to pay for free work they will provide...

Have a nice day.

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just_in_case
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2022-07-17 05:04:06

@kassonnade, Regarding the price model, there are many who will agree with you, but it's the developer's choice and only he knows why he put that price behind the studio edition.

Your question regarding why someone who knows C++, would like to work on a no-code engine. Yeah, I agree with you. But maybe someone who wants to improve the engine, and to help the community.

Regarding leaving the community, I would like to recommend you to stick around, Maybe you will like the simplicity and faster workflow of CC for some types of games compared to other engines out there.

@Aimining_bullets, having an opinion and putting that opinion in front of the community is not an argument, I rather prefer to call it healthy debates, at least we have a topic to discuss.

@count2rfeit, Thanks I am glad you found the video informative, Sorry that I didn't show how the ".h" and ".cpp" files look like when you open them with a text editor.
Btw, it looks like any other C++ file, below is a screenshot of file opened in VSCODE..

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sven
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2022-07-17 09:34:58

studio version i will buy for sure in future even if i dont know C++ but its good way to learn it.
sometimes there is huge discounts on steam so if you dont have much money to spend then you can just wait price to drop.

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onceforloops
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2022-07-17 16:06:30

Thanks for putting up the image of the C++ code JustInCase, I am excited about buying the studio editon now:)
Really cool!!!
I am still working on that spherical world thing, I think you have given me some good help with that. Thanks again...

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luposian
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2024-09-09 04:53:17

Kinda diving into the past on this topic, but I'm curious... if irrlicht (game engine) source code is freely available, then what is the whole IrrEdit page saying it costs $1,900 to BUY? Yet there is a link to download the source code to 1.5 for free? Is v1.5 an older version than the one that is being sold for $1,900? How much older?

Assuming someone wanted to go to the trouble of "remaking" what we currently know as CopperCube (which some claim to have done or attempted), what all would actually be necessary to do so? What programs/code?

And it sounds like someone (JIC?) was saying that the Editor is really the only part that's being held back (not open sourced), but everything else is freely available?

If that were true, then it's like, all the INGREDIENTS are free, but the RECIPE is what you're paying for? Without the recipe, the ingredients are just individual food items, but the recipe is what makes all those ingredients into a MEAL.

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just_in_case
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2024-09-09 05:46:13

@Luposian, Irllicht is the base ( game engine) that both IRREDIT and COPPERCUBE uses.

Irrlicht is open source and free in every sense.

While Irredit is more like a world editor (level editor) that provides you a GUI to translate objects in a scene and then export that scene to irrlicht.

So when it says the source code of IrrEdit is available for $1,900 it is not the irrlicht source code that it talks about, it is actually the source code for the GUI (editor) that Irredit uses.

When you talk about irredit 1.5 available for free, it is not the source code that is available for free, it is the tool itself.

When we talk about the source code that CopperCube studio edition provide us, again this source code is not free. One has to purchase the studio edition license.

We get the source code of the modified irrlicht engine, not the latest irllicht version that is available for free.

Again, with this source code, we are not getting the GUI (editor) code, while when purchasing the source code of irredit you will get the GUI code as well.

So, yeah you are kind of right. You get all the ingredients, some of them are free and some of them are paid, but the recipe is hidden for Editor of CopperCube.


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